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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:34 pm
by MikeGale
For cross browser checks....

The site I was thinking of is browsercam. $20 for 24 hours use.

There are more, but my previous experience is that the free ones can be flaky or hard to use or keep you waiting.

This link has some of them:

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:37 pm
by Cheyenne
Wow!! Lots of stuff to look at. Thank you. :D

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 3:42 pm
by Albert Wiersch
MikeGale wrote:For cross browser checks....

The site I was thinking of is browsercam. $20 for 24 hours use.
It sounds like they should integrate with CSE HTML Validator! I've emailed them to see if they are interested.

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 3:45 pm
by Cheyenne
I'd be willing to pay a bit for this addition. 8)

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 5:47 pm
by Lou
Albert, Put my name on that list right behind Cheyenne.

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 10:06 pm
by Cheyenne
Can you look at again, please? I really worked on it today.

Thank you.


Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 4:31 pm
by Albert Wiersch
Cheyenne wrote:Can you look at again, please? I really worked on it today.

Thank you.


I took a quick look and it's better but the phone number was still cut off on the bottom by just a little in IE 7. You could still read the number though. It wasn't cut off in Firefox but there was more (too much I'd say) vertical space between "Alpha Teq Computer Support" and the phone number in Firefox (but not in IE 7).

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 4:35 pm
by Cheyenne
I hear what you are saying, and Thankyou.

I did put the site thru Firefox and Navigator. Will check it out again. As far as IE 7 goes, it'll just need to stay that way since I don't have a way to do a check it out.


Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:00 pm
by MikeGale
I'd recommend:
1) Dropping any height specification for text areas, altogether.
2) Using that suggestion about em's for sizing, width.
3) Checking with one of those services we discussed for IE7, before go-live. (Over the life of a page made today this could well be the dominant viewing platform!!)
4) Making changes on a shadow page and getting those right before going live.
5) Not freezing font size, it can cause some really weird and ugly effects for some of your users. (Markup can be different from and better than a Photoshop layout, if you use "flow design".)

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:13 pm
by Cheyenne
Thank you, Mike. I'll make this work!

Will work with those sites for IE7

This was it, right?

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 5:35 pm
by Cheyenne
I am working on em's. They work ok in the body, but the header is giving me a fit!
I changed the sizing of the phone number from 30px to 3.0em, and the number because huge. I thought that since the phone no. is in the header that the #header font size would have an effect. Not!

Searching websites given to me in my Google search, I found that 10px equals 1.0 em. In the body, it did. In the header, it didn't.

So, at this point, instead of changing the px's to em's in the rest of the css and really mess things up, I'd ask for your thoughts again.

I do plan to use the

I got the background here: ... rounded_2/. That is where all of the px's comes from. Not from me :lol:


Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 4:22 pm
by Cheyenne
I changed all percents and px's to em's. Didn't work. All that came up was the "top" and "content" and the blue background.

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:45 pm
by Cheyenne
OK, guys, would you please look at Netscape, Firefox, and OE again.

I know they aren't perfect yet. I do plan to go the the website you, Mike, suggested. I'll get to it Monday or Tuesday so that I can use my 24 hours wisely.

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:34 pm
by CaryD
Looks okay to me in Opera 9 and FF2. Check out this page for getting transparent png images working with IE6.

The easiest way to PNG support in IE6

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 2:20 pm
by MikeGale

I recommend a step at a time.

1) Keep backups of every version, so you can always go back. Especially important if you're still learning. (Version control if you're familiar with that technique, else forget it.)

2) There are tools (like in those toolbars for FF and IE) that tell you the heredity of your styling. (You should end up with a natural "feeling" for how the CSS works. If you don't have much of that feeling there's work to do. The W3school site has some samples will probably help to get a feel.)

3) Change one thing at a time and check it cross browser (until you pretty much know what will happen, then take bigger steps).

4) You need to work out the details yourself.

5) Where you are asking for specific help you should publish the core markup and CSS, otherwise... (I'll not be available for a few days so can't contribute.)